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2012 Draft Review for Kansas City Chiefs

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In 2012 kcyoungguns had Michael Rose Ivey write a review on what he thought about the Chiefs 2012 NFL draft. He is back with kcyoungguns.com to give take on how the Chiefs 2012 picks panned out. Here is the link for what he wrote in 2o12. reference. http://kcyoungguns.com/2015/05/04/rating-the-2012-chiefs-draft/

Dontari Poe DT Memphis Round 1

  • Dontari Poe’s biggest negative coming out of college was that lack of production that did not match his incredible combine numbers. However, there has not been any knock on Poe since entering the NFL. Widely considered the best 3-4 Nose Tackle in the NFL, Poe has not only been dominant but consistently on the field. At 345-pounds, Poe led all defensive players in percentage of snaps played with 95% this past year. An incredible feat for a man his size who is double and sometimes triple teamed in the Chiefs 3-4 scheme. His production has definitely justified the Chiefs high selection of Poe, as he looks to be the anchor of this defense for years to come.

Jeff Allen OG Illinois Second round pick

  • Jeff Allen has been a consistent piece in the revolving offensive line of the Chiefs. Allen has displayed his versatility since becoming a member of the Chiefs. Originally drafted as a OT, the third-year offensive linemen has played in 31 games (27 starts) at the left guard position. He did miss a lot of the season last year with a a torn bicep tendon but looks to be healthy and start at guard.

Donald Stephenson OT Oklahoma Third round pick

  • The Kansas City native has given a surprise amount for production in his three years with the Chiefs. He has done well in his limited starting action, but looks to take on a full starting role at left tackle. The belief in Stephenson’s ability to be a solid starter is evident in the Chiefs allowing former LT Branden Albert to walk away in free agency in 2014. This will be a big year for Stephenson as the job seems to be his to lose.

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Devon Wylie WR Fresno State Round 4

  • Devon Wylie never flourished with the Chiefs but was not really expected to make a big impact. With a lot of other needs at the time, many questioned this selection. However, Wylie did appear in six games his rookie year, catching 6 passes for 53 yards along with occasionally being used as a kickoff and punt returner. Wylie has been a league journey man and is currently a free agent.

De’Quan Menzie Alabama Round 5

  • Menzie unfortunately never played for the Chiefs and is currently retired. Menzie is just another Alabama defensive player who may have been a product of a quality system under Nick Saban.

Cyrus Gray Texas A&M Round 6

  • Gray was productive coming out of Texas A&M and was thought to be a quality addition to the roster as a sixth round pick. Unfortunately, Gray has been stuck at third string behind Jamaal Charles and Knile Davis. There has been little opportunity for Gray thus far, but he provides quality depth behind Charles and Davis

Jerome Long DT San Diego State Round 7

  • Like many other seventh round picks, Long has had a tough time sticking with a team. Long was cut by the Chiefs and then claimed off the practice squad by the Jacksonville Jaguars. He is currently a free agent.

Junior Hemingway WR Michigan Round 7 Pick 31

  • Junior Hemingway is quite a surprise and even a paradox in the NFL. As a second to last pick int the draft, Hemingway has seen action and even provided a little production at the WR spot. Hemingway has two touchdown receptions to go along with 233 yards on 25 receptions. Hemingway will be a backup again but he has proven to be reliable when counted upon.

2012 NFL Draft - First Round

Standout: Dontari Poe NT

  • Poe could even be considered the biggest surprise in the draft. A lot of people who prefer film over combine stats had more negatives than positives to say about Poe’s game at Memphis. However since coming to Kansas City, Poe has been nothing but dominant and will continue to be a staple in the Chiefs defense.

Bust: Devon Wylie

  • For a 4th round pick, you would expect a little bit more production from Wylie but in his defense he was drafted higher than his value.

Biggest Surprise: Junior Hemingway

  • Not much expected from the seventh round pick, but Hemingway has been productive in his limited role with the Chiefs.

Michael Rose Ivey

Chiefs Second and Third Round Selections

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FILL NEEDS.

This was clearly a must for the Chiefs on the second day of the draft. Andy Reid saw glaring holes on the offensive line and at wideout. With the 49th pick the Chiefs selected offensive tackle Mitch Morse from Missouri. Morse stands at a tall 6’5″ 305 pounds. He can play several positions across the line. He has the ability to play center, guard, or tackle. All three positions are spots of need for the Chiefs. Morse is a smart, savvy, nasty blocker who projects best inside due to his short arms. He stood out at LT, RT and center vs. the SEC. The Chiefs will ask Morse to move to guard in hopes he can be ready to start in 2015.

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Morse relied on timing, instincts and angles to get guys blocked as a tackle at the college level but does lack the arm length and functional athleticism to play tackle in the pros. If he moves inside to guard, his toughness will serve him well. Morse is not a mauler type of blocker because he does not have the strength. He is not a power player and must prove that he can sustain his block and positioning to be an effective run blocker. Teams were heating up on Morse the closer it got to draft day and some see him as one of the top transitional center prospects in the draft because of his intelligence.

OVERALL Grade: B 

Reasoning… Again, filled a major need but I was hoping they would fill their need at receiver here once Jaelen Strong began to slip. Teams must have been scared off more than I realized about Strong’s wrist injury and how he handled it.

When the third round started the I was hoping to see Jaelen Strong or Tyler Lockett available for the Chiefs but both were selected before the Chiefs selected. When these two wide receivers were off the board, John Dorsey saw an opportunity to trade up to 76 to select Georgia wide receiver Chris Conley. The trade sent the Chiefs 80th pick and their 6th round pick to the Minnesota Vikings. In 2014 Conley had 36 receptions for 657 yards and 8 touchdowns.

A question that needs to be answered with Conley is if he is a sprinter or a football player. Corners have great success playing bump and cover defense against Conley because he struggles to get off the line cleanly. During the combine Conley was able to boost his stock with a great 40 yard dash, bench press, and board jump.While he struggles to get off the line, he dominates with a cushion off the line, and cornerbacks will demand help over the top when facing him in man coverage. He has long arms (33 ¾”) and uses his hands to get the ball out of the air. Unlike some receivers in this class, he is able to catch the ball consistently with his hands instead of letting it reach his body.

In the end I really wanted the Chiefs to go in a different direction to fill their need at receiver. I would have preferred Sammy Coates from Auburn or my favorite sleeper receiver Justin Hardy  from Eastern Carolina.

OVERALL GRADE: C- 

The selection of a wideout was the correct pick just not the right player in my opinion. Only time will tell with Conley but the Chiefs need someone to step in day one and I feel Coates and Hardy could have done that.

The Chiefs had a second pick in the third round when they selected cornerback Steven Nelson from Oregon State with the 98th pick. Nelson was a second team All-Pac 12 performer in 2015. The Chiefs want to stock pile their secondary this year because of how the NFL is being played. With the game moving closer and closer to a passing league, the Chiefs have focused on getting players that can get to the quarterback and corners that can create turnovers. I am very disappointed that the Chiefs did not fill their need at MLB with Paul Dawson. The TCU standout was selected by the Bengals the pick after the Chiefs. Kansas City needs a linebacker to play along with Derrick Johnson in the middle.

The Chiefs loved Nelson’s style of play because of the same reasons Andy Reid loved Marcus Peters. Both cornerbacks play with a competitive and confident edge. When on the field, Nelson views himself as the best player on every snap. It appears that Nelson is essentially a poor man’s Marcus Peters. Along with the same mentality, both players use their hands too much with receivers that draws too many penalties. Nelson does not have a second gear that is needed to cover faster receivers in the NFL. Also, at 5’10” offensive coordinators will target Nelson in the end zone with taller receivers.

NFL: Combine

 

OVERALL GRADE: B- 

It is hard to hit a home run in the later rounds but the Chiefs were still able to fill a need with another young corner that can cover exceptionally in man coverage. I would have given the Chiefs an A if they selected linebacker Phil Dawson or wideout Justin Hardy. Remember these two players as great late round selection for their teams.

Spencer Montgomery 

Chiefs 2015 First Round Pick

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Want an employee that has failed a drug test, had academic problems, shows up late to meetings, and being dismissed from his previous team? This is the off the field resume of Washington cornerback Marcus Peters. The Kansas City Chiefs drafted Peters with the 18th pick. The Chiefs hope this baggage does not come back to haunt them. Peters, who many would have considered a top 10 pick if not for these issues must have wowed head coach Andy Reid and GM John Dorsey during his interviews. Too be honest, I trust Andy Reid. The Chiefs definitely did their background checks and see Peters as someone that can be productive without causing problems. The alarming aspect to his rap sheet in my eyes is the problems he had with the coaching staff and other Washington teammates. These off the field antics had Peters completely removed from several teams draft board but all it takes is one team to see past his issues to make his dream of playing in the NFL come true.
In 34 games for UW, Peters had 11 interceptions and 129 tackles. The cornerback allowed just 38.1 percent of the passes against him to be completed. Peters was elected to the second-team All-Pac-12 in 2013.Peters has truly prototype size for the position. He competes hard during his battles in press-man coverage and tries to intimidate receivers with his physicality. He will be active and disruptive when ball is in the air and although this may draw penalties, the Chiefs want Peters to keep his competitive edge. He is at his best when contesting catches and often times comes away the winner on 50/50 throws. Unlike other corners in this years draft, Marcus is able to step up and make open field tackles against stronger running backs. The biggest weakness in his game is the fact that he gets grabs receivers off the line when he is beaten which will draw flags from officials in the NFL.

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There have been several fitting comparisons for Marcus Peters such as Jason McCourty, but I feel he has the potential to have a similar, if not better career than Aqib Talib. Overall I would rate the Chiefs pick as a B. The reasoning behind this pick is because it filled a need with exceptional talent. I am scared away from calling it an A because of his past but the pick has the boom or bust feeling. During the next two rounds the Chiefs have to address their glaring issue at wide receiver. I hope John Dorsey has some type of plan to draft WR Jaelen Strong out of Arizona State because he fits perfectly with what the Chiefs try to do in the passing game. Strong would come in and be a younger and better Dwayne Bowe. NFL.com has Bowe as their NFL player comparison for Jaelen Strong because both guys use their body to shield the ball from the defender. Neither player creates great separation but both win 50-50 balls. If the Chiefs can not land Strong, I hope they aim to cover their holes of linebacker and center. For linebacker I desire Phil Dawson because of the tenacity he would bring to the Chiefs. Like Derrick Johnson, Dawson has a nose for the ball but can find himself being caught cheating in play action.

Spencer Montgomery

A Manic Monday

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A Monday afternoon in Kansas City is normally nothing special. People are at work and kids are at school, typically a slow day for Kansas Citians. March 4th was anything but a normal Monday for Kansas City. The Kansas City Chiefs resigned punter Dustin Colquitt and wide receiver Dwayne Bowe, and placed the franchise tag on left tackle Branden Albert.

Colquitt’s five year, $18.75 million deal with $8.9 million guaranteed, has made him the highest-paid punter in the NFL. Throughout his eight year career, Colquitt has punted the ball 657 times with an average of 44.7 yards per punt. 250 of these punts have pinned opponents inside the twenty yard line. He also attended the Pro Bowl last season for the first time in his career.

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USA Today

Dwayne Bowe will remain in Kansas City after agreeing to a five year deal worth $56 million with $26 million guaranteed. Although his performance last year was sub-par in terms of scoring, catching only three touchdowns, Bowe was still able to reel in 59 passes despite quarterback issues plaguing the Chiefs all season.  The Chiefs must be confident that their incoming quarterback, Alex Smith, will be able to help jumpstart Bowe’s performance from a lackluster last season to a renewed outbreak this year.
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Branden Albert will get a one year, fully guaranteed $9.8 million contract, and has the opportunity to work out a long-term deal with the Chiefs before July 15. In addition to his contract, the Chiefs placed the franchise tag on Albert, mere minutes before the assigned deadline.

With the franchise tag being placed on Albert, questions have been raised regarding the Chiefs first-overall pick of the 2013 draft. Left tackle Luke Joekel from Texas A&M seemed the easy pick, but with Albert staying, the Chiefs have new options open to them. They may go ahead and take Joekel, looking to move either him or other players around on the offensive line. Another option is to trade their pick, similar to the St. Louis Rams last year, and look to receive more picks to gain more development-needed players.

Any way you look at it, the Chiefs have made many much-needed changes this season, these contract-renewals being the most recent of their off-season cleaning. Will this new and improved Chiefs team’s gambles on a nearly entirely new system pay off? Only time will tell, as the start of the season is still an agonizing six months away.  The Chiefs’ first game is on September 8.

On a side note, the Chiefs released right tackle Eric Winston this week, who made headlines last season with his rant against Chiefs’ fans. Early since his release, other AFC West teams have shown interest in him, especially the Raiders. He is sure to find a much more mellow and accepting fan base awaiting him.

Michael Mayer

Chiefs Future

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While I am not an expert on free agency and the draft, I am entitled to my opinion. So here it is. The Kansas City Chiefs could not have picked a better year to get the first pick of the draft. I mean heck, there are tons of elite quarterbacks this year. Just our luck. The only year that would have been better would have been the 2007 draft. Heck we would probably be in the Super Bowl with JaMarcus Russell marching down the field. With all jokes aside Chiefs fans are starting to feel like the Royals. Last year there were organization changers like Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III and this year there are… defensive tackles and offensive tackles. Although football is a game won in the trenches, teams must have a quarterback to manage the game.

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Picture from Toledoblade.com

With the recent releases of Kevin Boss and Steve Breaston, the Chiefs will be looking to fill these holes in the draft or free agency. Since the draft is too hard to predict from this far out, I will look at free agents. For starters, the Chiefs need to wrap up Dwayne Bowe or sign a top receiver such as Mike Wallace, Wes Welker, or Danny Amendola. In my opinion, the Chiefs should do everything they can to sign Amendola. After watching him every week since I live in St. Louis now I can say he is more than a game changer. Although Amendola has battled nagging injuries the past season, when healthy Sam Bradford targeted him on which seemed like every passing down. My last thought on the wide receiver position is the Chiefs should look to steal the humble Titus Young. While Young may not be Calvin Johnson, he does have playmaking abilities. If Andy Reid could discipline Young and keep him focused he could be a successful slot receiver to open the field for Bowe on the outside.

Now here is my Madden experience talking. The Chiefs should trade down to around the eighth pick and draft Sharrif Floyd. Mel Kiper and I actually agree that Floyd would be able to be the sheriff on the defensive line that they have been looking for in Dontari Poe and Glenn Dorsey. By trading down the Chiefs would be able to acquire additional picks that could be used to trade for an additional second round pick. With that pick they could take Matt Barkley or Geno Smith if either are available.

What the Chiefs actually do in the draft all depends on if the Chiefs use their franchise tag on Brandon Albert. If they do they will most likely lose Dwayne Bowe to free agency that would kill the already lackluster passing game. If the Chiefs decide to put the tag on Bowe they will lose Brandon Albert. I think the Chiefs can’t afford to lose Bowe because they will not be able to sign an elite receiver to replace him. The Chiefs would be able to then draft offensive tackle Luke Joeckel from Texas A&M. Lastly, the reason I have yet to address the need at the quarterback position is because I don’t see major changes. I would not be surprised to see Cassel taking snaps under center next year. The other option that looks to be coming to front of conversation is signing trading for Nick Foles who Reid picked last year with the Eagles. Reid clearly raves about this kid because of his size and potential. The Eagles have made it known that it will take a big package trade to pry him away. This is why I think the Chiefs need to do there homework and attempt to find a Tom Brady or at least a poor mans Tom Brady late in the draft and let him learn by seeing all the mistakes Matt Cassel will make next year. Last option for the Chiefs at quarterback will not happen but I would like to see the Chiefs take a look at Ryan Mallett who is backing up Tom Brady.

Spencer Montgomery

Cardinals vs Chiefs Expectations

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The Kansas City Chiefs are playing their first preseason game against the Arizona Cardinals. You should expect the Chiefs to play their starters for 2 series. I don’t expect big things, for the starters,  on either side of the ball.  The Chiefs want to get through this game without any injuries especially to the starters.  On offense I want to see how the timing is between Matt Cassell and the receivers especially Jon Baldwin.  For the starters on defense I want to see them play with intensity and not allow any points.

After the first quarter the back-ups will be playing for the rest of the game.  During this part I mainly watch the rookies and see how they are adjusting to the NFL.  The rookie I am most excited to see play is Dontari Poe.  My expectations for him this game is not that high because it is his first game as a pro. However, I hope to see him flash his potential.  Even though Dontari is the main rookie I am watching there is a myriad of other rookies that I will keep my eye on.  I am especially interested to see the rookie wide receivers play.  The rookie wide receivers that I will keep my eye on are Devon Wylie, Josh Bellamy, and Junior Hemingway.  I am not sure whether Junior will be playing tonight due to Injury.

The last two players I will be watching is Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi.  Brady and Ricky are in the middle of a quarterback battle fighting to become the back up.  I am more excited to see Ricky Stanzi play then Brady because I want to see if Ricky has made any progress following last season.

Connor Willsey

Get Ready to Cut Ties with Bowe

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Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe wants a monster contract. He wants his salary to be comparable to that of Cardinals’ Larry Fitzgerald, Lions’ Calvin Johnson, and Texans’ Andre Johnson. And it looks increasingly unlikely he’ll get his wish granted while dawning a tomato red Chiefs uniform.

When the deadline to sign franchise players to a long-term contract came and went, Bowe and Chiefs remained in a dispute that, according to numerous sources, was never close to being resolved. The Chiefs are unwilling to give into Bowe’s demands and offer him a hefty contract, while Bowe believes his extremely consistent play over the past 5 seasons has earned him an immense payday.

Kansas City wants Bowe to be motivated under a one-year contract, and the harsh reality is, they are probably very comfortable with the high probability that Bowe leaves in 2013. The Chiefs could still use the franchise tag on Bowe next year, but that would mean his salary would climb to 11.4 million for the 2013 season. The possibility of Kansas City giving Bowe the franchise tag in 2013 is certainly there. But if that doesn’t expose their lack of trust in Bowe, I don’t know what does.

While Bowe does try to be the best player he can be, sometimes a little too hard, he comes off as extremely unreliable, very difficult to read, and consumed by his own ego. Bowe has dropped too many balls in the 4th quarter of close games, ran the wrong route too many times in clutch situations, and has displayed immaturity on and off the field frequently.

Bowe’s report card contains as many question marks and sad faces as checks and smiles. Which is why it was hard to know how authentic his good-soldier performances were the last two years. Maybe they’re legit. Maybe they’re the act of a man who wanted a contract that pays him $40 million to $50 million guaranteed.

That was Bowe’s sin in all this: He seems to want so badly to be a superstar immediately that he’s not willing to wait for it to occur naturally. He wants to be a cover boy and an icon, and he wants it now. As Larry Johnson learned, Kansas City isn’t always the best place for that. As Kansas City and the Chiefs learned, a talented athlete who can’t fit into the organizational and geographical mind-set, usually finds his way out of town.

Those of you criticizing Scott Pioli for not coming to an agreement with Bowe and his advisors need to step back and look at Pioli’s body of work. Pioli has done a good job of keeping the homegrown talent here in Kansas City for the most part, as both Brandon Flowers and Tamba Hali signed long-term contract extensions to stay in town last summer. Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson both have very team-friendly contracts and both will remain in Chiefs uniforms for the foreseeable future.

However, critics of Pioli for being a cheap owner are certainly justified. Pioli never seems interested in signing high-quality players unless the player comes at a significant discount. When fullback Le’ron McClain was a free agent last summer, the Chiefs never expressed interest in McClain until his value dropped dramatically. Fullback was a position of need for the Chiefs, but Pioli would only fill the need if the financial ramifications were minimal.

Earlier this year, the Chiefs passed on bringing back cornerback Brandon Carr, a homegrown player that developed into a very solid NFL cornerback. Carr flew the coup and signed with the Dallas Cowboys for a ludicrous 60 million dollars over 5 years. Carr is worth no where near close to that type of money, but it would have been nice to see Pioli and his staff at least attempt to keep Carr in a Chiefs uniform.

The Chiefs have been preparing for life after Bowe for quite some time. They drafted Jonathan Baldwin, a physical possession receiver, in the 1st round of the 2011 draft. He would likely be looked upon to fill Bowe’s shoes shall he leave Kansas City. Hopefully Bowe realizes that he can be a superstar, but only in the right system and environment. I’m just not sure that environment will be Kansas City.

Tyler Howard