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2012 Draft Review for Kansas City Chiefs

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In 2012 kcyoungguns had Michael Rose Ivey write a review on what he thought about the Chiefs 2012 NFL draft. He is back with kcyoungguns.com to give take on how the Chiefs 2012 picks panned out. Here is the link for what he wrote in 2o12. reference. https://kcyoungguns.com/2015/05/04/rating-the-2012-chiefs-draft/

Dontari Poe DT Memphis Round 1

  • Dontari Poe’s biggest negative coming out of college was that lack of production that did not match his incredible combine numbers. However, there has not been any knock on Poe since entering the NFL. Widely considered the best 3-4 Nose Tackle in the NFL, Poe has not only been dominant but consistently on the field. At 345-pounds, Poe led all defensive players in percentage of snaps played with 95% this past year. An incredible feat for a man his size who is double and sometimes triple teamed in the Chiefs 3-4 scheme. His production has definitely justified the Chiefs high selection of Poe, as he looks to be the anchor of this defense for years to come.

Jeff Allen OG Illinois Second round pick

  • Jeff Allen has been a consistent piece in the revolving offensive line of the Chiefs. Allen has displayed his versatility since becoming a member of the Chiefs. Originally drafted as a OT, the third-year offensive linemen has played in 31 games (27 starts) at the left guard position. He did miss a lot of the season last year with a a torn bicep tendon but looks to be healthy and start at guard.

Donald Stephenson OT Oklahoma Third round pick

  • The Kansas City native has given a surprise amount for production in his three years with the Chiefs. He has done well in his limited starting action, but looks to take on a full starting role at left tackle. The belief in Stephenson’s ability to be a solid starter is evident in the Chiefs allowing former LT Branden Albert to walk away in free agency in 2014. This will be a big year for Stephenson as the job seems to be his to lose.

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Devon Wylie WR Fresno State Round 4

  • Devon Wylie never flourished with the Chiefs but was not really expected to make a big impact. With a lot of other needs at the time, many questioned this selection. However, Wylie did appear in six games his rookie year, catching 6 passes for 53 yards along with occasionally being used as a kickoff and punt returner. Wylie has been a league journey man and is currently a free agent.

De’Quan Menzie Alabama Round 5

  • Menzie unfortunately never played for the Chiefs and is currently retired. Menzie is just another Alabama defensive player who may have been a product of a quality system under Nick Saban.

Cyrus Gray Texas A&M Round 6

  • Gray was productive coming out of Texas A&M and was thought to be a quality addition to the roster as a sixth round pick. Unfortunately, Gray has been stuck at third string behind Jamaal Charles and Knile Davis. There has been little opportunity for Gray thus far, but he provides quality depth behind Charles and Davis

Jerome Long DT San Diego State Round 7

  • Like many other seventh round picks, Long has had a tough time sticking with a team. Long was cut by the Chiefs and then claimed off the practice squad by the Jacksonville Jaguars. He is currently a free agent.

Junior Hemingway WR Michigan Round 7 Pick 31

  • Junior Hemingway is quite a surprise and even a paradox in the NFL. As a second to last pick int the draft, Hemingway has seen action and even provided a little production at the WR spot. Hemingway has two touchdown receptions to go along with 233 yards on 25 receptions. Hemingway will be a backup again but he has proven to be reliable when counted upon.

2012 NFL Draft - First Round

Standout: Dontari Poe NT

  • Poe could even be considered the biggest surprise in the draft. A lot of people who prefer film over combine stats had more negatives than positives to say about Poe’s game at Memphis. However since coming to Kansas City, Poe has been nothing but dominant and will continue to be a staple in the Chiefs defense.

Bust: Devon Wylie

  • For a 4th round pick, you would expect a little bit more production from Wylie but in his defense he was drafted higher than his value.

Biggest Surprise: Junior Hemingway

  • Not much expected from the seventh round pick, but Hemingway has been productive in his limited role with the Chiefs.

Michael Rose Ivey

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Chiefs Second and Third Round Selections

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FILL NEEDS.

This was clearly a must for the Chiefs on the second day of the draft. Andy Reid saw glaring holes on the offensive line and at wideout. With the 49th pick the Chiefs selected offensive tackle Mitch Morse from Missouri. Morse stands at a tall 6’5″ 305 pounds. He can play several positions across the line. He has the ability to play center, guard, or tackle. All three positions are spots of need for the Chiefs. Morse is a smart, savvy, nasty blocker who projects best inside due to his short arms. He stood out at LT, RT and center vs. the SEC. The Chiefs will ask Morse to move to guard in hopes he can be ready to start in 2015.

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Morse relied on timing, instincts and angles to get guys blocked as a tackle at the college level but does lack the arm length and functional athleticism to play tackle in the pros. If he moves inside to guard, his toughness will serve him well. Morse is not a mauler type of blocker because he does not have the strength. He is not a power player and must prove that he can sustain his block and positioning to be an effective run blocker. Teams were heating up on Morse the closer it got to draft day and some see him as one of the top transitional center prospects in the draft because of his intelligence.

OVERALL Grade: B 

Reasoning… Again, filled a major need but I was hoping they would fill their need at receiver here once Jaelen Strong began to slip. Teams must have been scared off more than I realized about Strong’s wrist injury and how he handled it.

When the third round started the I was hoping to see Jaelen Strong or Tyler Lockett available for the Chiefs but both were selected before the Chiefs selected. When these two wide receivers were off the board, John Dorsey saw an opportunity to trade up to 76 to select Georgia wide receiver Chris Conley. The trade sent the Chiefs 80th pick and their 6th round pick to the Minnesota Vikings. In 2014 Conley had 36 receptions for 657 yards and 8 touchdowns.

A question that needs to be answered with Conley is if he is a sprinter or a football player. Corners have great success playing bump and cover defense against Conley because he struggles to get off the line cleanly. During the combine Conley was able to boost his stock with a great 40 yard dash, bench press, and board jump.While he struggles to get off the line, he dominates with a cushion off the line, and cornerbacks will demand help over the top when facing him in man coverage. He has long arms (33 ¾”) and uses his hands to get the ball out of the air. Unlike some receivers in this class, he is able to catch the ball consistently with his hands instead of letting it reach his body.

In the end I really wanted the Chiefs to go in a different direction to fill their need at receiver. I would have preferred Sammy Coates from Auburn or my favorite sleeper receiver Justin Hardy  from Eastern Carolina.

OVERALL GRADE: C- 

The selection of a wideout was the correct pick just not the right player in my opinion. Only time will tell with Conley but the Chiefs need someone to step in day one and I feel Coates and Hardy could have done that.

The Chiefs had a second pick in the third round when they selected cornerback Steven Nelson from Oregon State with the 98th pick. Nelson was a second team All-Pac 12 performer in 2015. The Chiefs want to stock pile their secondary this year because of how the NFL is being played. With the game moving closer and closer to a passing league, the Chiefs have focused on getting players that can get to the quarterback and corners that can create turnovers. I am very disappointed that the Chiefs did not fill their need at MLB with Paul Dawson. The TCU standout was selected by the Bengals the pick after the Chiefs. Kansas City needs a linebacker to play along with Derrick Johnson in the middle.

The Chiefs loved Nelson’s style of play because of the same reasons Andy Reid loved Marcus Peters. Both cornerbacks play with a competitive and confident edge. When on the field, Nelson views himself as the best player on every snap. It appears that Nelson is essentially a poor man’s Marcus Peters. Along with the same mentality, both players use their hands too much with receivers that draws too many penalties. Nelson does not have a second gear that is needed to cover faster receivers in the NFL. Also, at 5’10” offensive coordinators will target Nelson in the end zone with taller receivers.

NFL: Combine

 

OVERALL GRADE: B- 

It is hard to hit a home run in the later rounds but the Chiefs were still able to fill a need with another young corner that can cover exceptionally in man coverage. I would have given the Chiefs an A if they selected linebacker Phil Dawson or wideout Justin Hardy. Remember these two players as great late round selection for their teams.

Spencer Montgomery 

Chiefs 2015 First Round Pick

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Want an employee that has failed a drug test, had academic problems, shows up late to meetings, and being dismissed from his previous team? This is the off the field resume of Washington cornerback Marcus Peters. The Kansas City Chiefs drafted Peters with the 18th pick. The Chiefs hope this baggage does not come back to haunt them. Peters, who many would have considered a top 10 pick if not for these issues must have wowed head coach Andy Reid and GM John Dorsey during his interviews. Too be honest, I trust Andy Reid. The Chiefs definitely did their background checks and see Peters as someone that can be productive without causing problems. The alarming aspect to his rap sheet in my eyes is the problems he had with the coaching staff and other Washington teammates. These off the field antics had Peters completely removed from several teams draft board but all it takes is one team to see past his issues to make his dream of playing in the NFL come true.
In 34 games for UW, Peters had 11 interceptions and 129 tackles. The cornerback allowed just 38.1 percent of the passes against him to be completed. Peters was elected to the second-team All-Pac-12 in 2013.Peters has truly prototype size for the position. He competes hard during his battles in press-man coverage and tries to intimidate receivers with his physicality. He will be active and disruptive when ball is in the air and although this may draw penalties, the Chiefs want Peters to keep his competitive edge. He is at his best when contesting catches and often times comes away the winner on 50/50 throws. Unlike other corners in this years draft, Marcus is able to step up and make open field tackles against stronger running backs. The biggest weakness in his game is the fact that he gets grabs receivers off the line when he is beaten which will draw flags from officials in the NFL.

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There have been several fitting comparisons for Marcus Peters such as Jason McCourty, but I feel he has the potential to have a similar, if not better career than Aqib Talib. Overall I would rate the Chiefs pick as a B. The reasoning behind this pick is because it filled a need with exceptional talent. I am scared away from calling it an A because of his past but the pick has the boom or bust feeling. During the next two rounds the Chiefs have to address their glaring issue at wide receiver. I hope John Dorsey has some type of plan to draft WR Jaelen Strong out of Arizona State because he fits perfectly with what the Chiefs try to do in the passing game. Strong would come in and be a younger and better Dwayne Bowe. NFL.com has Bowe as their NFL player comparison for Jaelen Strong because both guys use their body to shield the ball from the defender. Neither player creates great separation but both win 50-50 balls. If the Chiefs can not land Strong, I hope they aim to cover their holes of linebacker and center. For linebacker I desire Phil Dawson because of the tenacity he would bring to the Chiefs. Like Derrick Johnson, Dawson has a nose for the ball but can find himself being caught cheating in play action.

Spencer Montgomery

Chiefs New OC

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Andy Reid is taking the Chiefs by storm. The overhaul of personnel being brought in from his previous team, the Philadelphia Eagles, was capped yesterday by Doug Pederson being named as the new offensive coordinator.

Pederson has an impressive track record, playing twelve years in the NFL as a quarterback for the Miami Dolphins, Cleveland Browns, Green Bay Packers, and the Philadelphia Eagles. In Philadelphia he played under none other than Andy Reid, who coached him to his best season, throwing for 1,276 yards and seven touchdowns.

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After retiring, Pederson spent two seasons as the Eagles’ offensive quality control coach, and was named quarterbacks coach in 2011.

What Chiefs fans should really be excited about though, is the success that has followed Pederson.  As offensive coordinator, Pederson hopes to truly display his offensive abilities in Kansas City.  Over the last two seasons, the Chiefs’ offensive ranking has been 24th and 27th.

In 2010, he played a role in the Eagles’ record-setting year. They scored 439 points, which was third best in the NFL, and gained 6,230 net yards, which was second in the NFL. Both of these were also franchise records. Compared to the Chiefs’ glaring 2-14 record, and league-worst 211 points this season, Pederson seems like the perfect fit to jumpstart the offense.

Chiefs fans may still have cause for doubt, with the quarterback woes that have befallen them since the retiring of Hall of Fame player Len Dawson back in 1975. Since then, only one Chiefs-drafted franchise quarterback, Todd Blackledge, has won a game.  Although the quarterback situation seems non fixable in Kansas City, Pederson has shown that he can come through with a winner.

In 2011, with the questionable return of Michael Vick, Pederson showed that he can turn an uncertain offensive factor into a work of genius. That year, Vick threw for 3,303 yards, ran for over 500, and completed nearly half of his passes.

While the clouds are hanging low over Kansas City and the Chiefs, Pederson brings a ray of hope, one that Chiefs fans are in desperate need of.

Mike Mayer